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George Gemayel's avatar

An interesting post but I don't agree with you.

If you look at the radio study you cite, it is far from clear that there is a direct connection between radio and support for the Nazis, despite the authors' claims.

Even if we suppose there is, you have not included the significant finding that it seems to have mainly bolstered support among already nationalist/anti-semitic areas and had a negative impact (ie. decreased support) in areas where the opposite was true.

Beyond this, you give them impression the Nazis used the radio to come to power. To the contrary, they came to power and then used the radio. At that point they were not exactly competing in an open forum of ideas. This was a totalitarian state, which blocked any other meaningful opposition from having a media presence. You claim that Germany is a good example today but you could have made the same point about Weimar Germany - a good regulator of speech that carried balanced opinions. The trouble was that when a totalitarian government took their place, they could use the same controlling mechanism to block opposition. So the problem seems to be that the system you describe works until it doesn't. A totalitarian government can use the same control mechanism in a much more sinister way than a bland one. Until that happens, you can keep saying "see it's fine, the slippery slope argument isn't true".

You also seem to contradict your own point. You say that Zuck and tech people want uninhibited free speech but at the same time note that Facebook (as all social media platforms do) employs a large number of content moderators to deal with the sorts of problems you highlight.

Finally, if you look at the US, the appetite for Trump candidates is massively down and it seems very likely he's going to hammered if he tries to run next year. In the UK, it is hard to see anyone in government, or who actually stands a chance of coming to power, as being particularly extreme.

Alex Jones, who you also mention, continues to be seen as a nut, is getting hammered by lawsuits and it is hard to see any mainstream, respectable politician wanting to appear on his show or gain his endorsement.

To me this suggests that the open forum has worked - people have been presented with a set of ideas and, by and large, seem to want moderate politicians.

Incidentally, I think your vision of the world has already come into play in the UK, where we have extremely strict laws on free speech. For example, if I want to point out biological facts or state facts about terrorism or crime statistics (again facts, not opinions) I would potentially face fines, legal action and lose my job. Note that none of these things would be advocating violence but would be made to appear so by 'hate speech' advocates - is that a positive thing?

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Dr. Douglas McGrogan's avatar

This is SO wrong! Who is to say where the limits will be? The government? Unelected mandarins? The will of the people MUST be respected.

Your argument is elitist.

Democracy is not perfect, but is better than everything else. One of the hazards is free speech.

A guy named Orwell wrote a significant book that illustrates how easily what you advocate for is then abused.

We must not base our goals on fear. I may not agree with, nor like, what you have to say, but I very much respect your right to say it!!

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